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Author Topic: Why do we believe in God?  (Read 2711 times)

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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2008, 01:22:05 PM »

The Magic Sky Pixies are gonna punish you guys.

Mmm, divine pixie dust...
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2008, 05:54:45 PM »

The Magic Sky Pixies are gonna punish you guys.

No. I have a divine pixie squasher.  ;D
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2008, 10:51:27 AM »

I have a divine pixie fetish!  Gotta go!!  Quickly!!!   :o :o
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2008, 11:07:35 AM »

Just switch to an infernal pixie fetish.  ;D
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2008, 01:27:59 PM »

http://tsade.com/Faerie_Trap

This is what I've done with faeries. But, I'm a strong believer in fucking your gods. Makes them... easier to reach. :)
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2008, 03:08:07 PM »

And sucking their toes?
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2008, 03:52:41 PM »

And sucking their toes?

Hrm... never tried, but I have no problem with that. Nothing sexier than someone sucking on your toes. :) Specially if they have a collar on.
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2008, 03:55:08 PM »

Ah, gods with a collar on...

Ofcourse.
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2008, 10:02:55 AM »

http://tsade.com/Faerie_Trap

This is what I've done with faeries. But, I'm a strong believer in fucking your gods. Makes them... easier to reach. :)

Well, what come around.......they've been doing it to us since creation.
We should appreciate our modern world. Adam and Eve could've gone to court to prevent eviction, and environmentalists could've saved Sodom & Gommorah.

Aren't all those Thou Shalts exactly like a collar?
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2008, 10:50:14 AM »

Religion, true religion, is putting on a collar of faith in hope of being lead to enlightenment.

Dogma is a collar put on you without your consent, making you a slave to your religion.
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2008, 10:10:04 AM »

Religion, true religion, is putting on a collar of faith in hope of being lead to enlightenment.

Dogma is a collar put on you without your consent, making you a slave to your religion.

Could be looked at another way:

True religion is the removal of the collar of materialism, allowing one to transend the pettiness of the day to day world, and be part of a far greater meaning and purpose. 

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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2008, 11:23:52 AM »

Maybe. I've always seen religion as surrender to a higher force. Yeah, it may not be real or provable, but you really do surrender to that force. It isn't for everyone, hell, it shouldn't be for everyone, but there is power in that surrender.

But, we have our chains from so many different places. Materialism, marriage, relationships, and even our own emotional baggage. They are chains, not unlike a leash. They might not be as pretty, but they influence us just as the collar of religion does.
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2008, 01:30:24 PM »

Hey... why do you team up materialism with pettiness? ???
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2008, 11:25:40 AM »

Hey... why do you team up materialism with pettiness? ???


.....because pettiness occurs in the material world, where our egos prevail. When we see the universe as something greater than ourselves, something greater than just a big cloud of gas that exploded, we can free ourselves from that materialism.
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Re: Why do we believe in God?
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2008, 01:37:36 PM »

I don't see why our egos would prevail in a material world; what, if anything, this prevailing has to do with the universe being something greater than a big cloud of gas that exploded (I would say a tiny globe of infinite density); and why seeing the universe as something 'greater,' as you phrase it, would invalidate materialism. Frankly, I think you need materialism, or in other words the understanding that man is nothing but his body, and when the body is harmed, imperiled or destroyed there isn't a soul which remains unscathed beneath this violence, in order to fully understand mortality and vulnerability, and in this understanding overcome your own egocentrism - there hardly is a more solid footing for morality than materialism, which implies the thought that wrongs cannot be mended, and death cannot be overcome. Ergo: don't wrong people, don't kill them, but take care of them - don't fall into extremes, because in extremes one usually doesn't take other people's existence and reasoning into account (and when you realize that all they have is their existence, their reasoning, their hopes, despairing and emotions, and that all this is easily snuffed out or otherwise disrupted, it seems to me you've found a first ground for morality much better than anything religion can provide). Above all, don't put your trust in some merciful God - you'll have to do it yourself, and more than that, when screw up there isn't anything or anyone to save your victims. Kill, or wrong, somebody - you won't drink a beer with him or her in the afterlife, walking memory lane and laughing about your old antagonisms. That somebody, when killed, is gone - fully, irrecoverably gone: not a shred remains. This materialist insight in man's mortality and vulnerability, I would say, certainly induces one to overcome one narrowminded egocentrism, one's selfrighteousness and willingness to sacrifice people to a lot of different convictions one might otherwise entertain. Like I said: materialism means as solid a ground for ethics as is to be gotten in this world - it's the thought that people have a soul eternal that makes other people shrug their shoulders regarding their fate. Harm done, well - then no harm done, cause they have an eternity ahead of them, and surely this thing I did to them, like ruining their earthly life, pales in comparison to the joys which are in store for them! Killed them, well - then that just means they move on to another life, and that's all... what's the big deal? No, give me ethics, virtue, morality, kindness - give me materialism.
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