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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2009, 11:03:16 AM »

Amanda Knox tells AP in jail that she's scared

By PATRICIA THOMAS (AP) – 26 minutes ago

PERUGIA, Italy — Amanda Knox told The Associated Press from her jail cell Sunday that she is scared eight days after an Italian court sentenced her to 26 years in prison for the murder of her British roommate.

"I am scared because I don't know what is going on," the 22-year-old American student told an AP reporter during a 10-minute visit by two Italian lawmakers, prison officials and a pair of reporters in Capanne prison on the outskirts of Perugia.

Knox has been jailed for two years since she was arrested a few days after the slaying of Meredith Kercher in the house the two students shared in this Umbrian university town.

"I am waiting and always hoping," Knox said, switching from English into Italian for the delegation. "I don't understand many things, but I have to accept them, things that for me don't always seem very fair."

Sitting on her bed in the 9-square-meter (96.88-sq. feet) cell when the visitors arrived, the Washington State woman said "I was feeling horrendous" after the Dec. 5 verdict that she was guilty of murder and sexual assault.

"The guards helped me out. They held me all night," she said.

Kercher's body was found in a pool of blood with her throat slit on Nov. 2, 2007, in the bedroom of the house she shared with Knox while the two were studying in the medieval town of Perugia in central Italy. Prosecutors said the Leeds University student was murdered the previous night.

Knox's Italian ex-boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, was convicted of the same charges as her and given a 25-year-sentence. After the verdict, he was transferred to another prison. Both insist they are innocent.

Defendants in Italian trials can appeal pursue appeals, and Knox's lawyers have expressed hope she will be acquitted in an appeals trial.

Knox looked relieved when one of her visitors, Italian parliamentary deputy Rocco Girlanda, recounted the unrelated case of a young man also convicted of murder at the first trial level but exonerated in the appeals trial.

In Italian jails, inmates can wear their own clothing, and Knox wore a gray-and-white-flecked turtleneck sweater, black legging pants, white socks and black slippers. Her hair was pulled back in a ponytail.

The visitors, who included a reporter from the Italian news agency ANSA, were not allowed to ask Knox questions about the trial itself.

Instead Knox spoke about her affection for her family and her determination to continue her university studies, the reason why she came to Perugia in the first place a few months before the Nov. 2, 2007, slaying.

"I believe in my family. They are telling me to stay calm," Knox said. Her family, as well as a senator from her home state, Maria Cantwell, have spearheaded a vigorous campaign to convince Italian authorities she is innocent.

The visit was arranged by Fondazione Italia USA, which promotes close relations between the two countries, in an effort to heal any rift over accusations that Italy's justice system is unfair.

"My family is the most important thing for me. I also miss going to classes," she said. "I miss stimulating conversations."

She said she is in contact with her professors. "We are trying to work out how I can talk to them," she added, noting that while she can write letters from prison, e-mail access is forbidden.

Her cell includes two beds — she shares it with another woman, who has been identified by other lawmakers in previous visits as a 53-year-old American woman from New Orleans who is serving a four-year sentence for a drug conviction. For privacy reasons, Knox declined to talk about her cellmate.

The cell also includes a private bathroom with shower, toilet and bidet.

The visitors were not allowed to bring cameras or tape recorders.

Knox said she doesn't watch TV or read newspapers. But there are TV sets in the prison.

The prison was decked out for the holidays, with Christmas trees. During a short tour, the delegation saw a hairdressers, whose services inmates can use once a week. A pingpong table is among the recreation facilities.

The American stood the entire time of the visit, which took plac
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2009, 11:34:06 AM »

(the tail of that article got cut off, also could you link the source?)

While it seems like the trial itself was rather frustrating, the prison itself doesn't sound nearly as bad as the US system. I hope she can continue to work on her classes and doesn't lose hope. There is always a chance someone will find the proof needed to save her.

BTW, thank you so much for keeping up with this. It gave me other interesting ideas about news.
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2010, 10:09:46 AM »

During my vacation, I followed the news very closely. The case against her is actually very strong, although circumstantial. However, the charges of anti-Americanism are pure nonsense. The State Dept., and independent observers feel she got a fair trial.

It seems the folks in her favor are the ones completely biased. They are ignoring the evidence, or misrepresenting it, and simply fabricating bias where it doesn't exist.

What is so extremely difficult to accept is that Amanda is a normal college girl, with no background of trouble whatsoever,  now facing 26 years in an Italian prison. She simply went to Italy for one semester of college, and has lost her life! However, so did Meridith Kercher.

Absolutely nothing in Amanda's background indicates she would do something like this. To everyone who knew her it is unbelievable. That is what is fueling the controversy. Even jurors say they couldn't sleep the night before, and desperately wanted to let he go. They weren't influenced by the media at all, and may even have been angered by it.

The judges and jury knew this was utterly out of character for Amanda, but had to go by the evidence. They cried in the jury room. No anti-Americanism at all! They had to follow the law, not their feelings, which were in Amanda's favor.
 


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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2010, 09:24:15 AM »

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/C344/

The above link, and entire website, gives a very different, and more objective view, of the case.
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2010, 07:31:49 PM »

Interesting analysis, kind of wish they would link more source documents though.
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2010, 09:13:01 AM »

Interesting analysis, kind of wish they would link more source documents though.

If you click on the main page, and look on the right side, there is a huge number of links, including a few source documents. However, they are scarce, and most articles are vague and incomplete.

However, the following is one of the best analysis I've read.

Making Amanda Knox’s Timeline Alibi Work


The most concise timeline I've found on this murder so far, and interesting comentary from FinnMacCool...
April 16, 2009
Posted by FinnMacCool
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Amanda Knox’s first encounters with police and other witnesses the day after Meredith's murder go to the very heart of her credibility of her truth-telling about events, and of her guilt or innocence... in the crime.
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On Sunday, 4 November 2007, Amanda Knox wrote an email to a student welfare officer at the University of Washington in Seattle.
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Knox related her version of what had happened at the house on Friday the 2nd before the communication police arrived to establish why Meredith’s two mobile phones were tossed into a garden a kilometer away.
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This email was written while Amanda was alone and under no pressure. Copies went to various relatives and friends. For many of her supporters, it represents the essential truth of what happened, before Amanda was interrogated by the police and began changing her story.
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This analysis covers the period from noon to a quarter past one on the Friday, the day that Meredith Kercher’s murder was discovered. It compares the claims in the email with cellphone records for Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito for the period.
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The contents of the email
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According to the email, Amanda and Raffaele were initially at Raffaele’s apartment at noon on November 2nd. The email describes how Amanda spoke with Filomena Romanelli and then tried to reach Meredith Kercher by phone.
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It then explains that Amanda and Raffaele returned to the cottage, where they found evidence of a break-in, alongside some bloodstains which Amanda had already noticed. (when?)
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They also observed that Meredith’s door was locked.
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After they tried and failed to break down this door, they phoned the police.
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After that, Amanda claims she called Filomena once again, who said she would return to the cottage.
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Cellphone records do not support this story nor do the police.
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Two police officers arrived at the cottage to investigate Meredith’s two phones, which had been found in a neighbor’s garden.
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The police claim they arrived at 12:25, and video evidence appears to support this.
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Amanda and Raffaele dispute the video evidence. They claim that the police arrived much later, after the call to the emergency services which Raffaele made at 12:55.
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Below, we look first at the scenario described by Amanda, followed by the scenario described by the police, with a view to determining what really happened in that crucial hour between noon and one.
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First scenario: Amanda Knox’s email is essentially true, the police account is essentially inaccurate.
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If we assume that the police are basically incorrect, and that Amanda Knox’s email is basically correct, in their respective memories of what happened on November 2 between noon and 13:15 that leaves us with several puzzling questions. Here are some of them:
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1. Where was Amanda at 12:08?
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At 12:08, Amanda calls Filomena. Amanda claims that she made this call from Raffaele’s house.
In his prison diary, Raffaele describes the same conversation as taking place at the cottage.
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Filomena says that Amanda explained, in that conversation, that she was at the cottage, and was on her way to fetch Raffaele.
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2. Why didn’t Amanda call Raffaele?
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Even though Amanda claims to have walked alone to the cottage, and to have been concerned enough about the bloodstains to want to bring Raffaele to have a look at them, she never attempted to phone Raffaele at all during the whole of that morning.
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3. Why did Amanda stop calling Meredith’s phones?
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Amanda first tried calling Meredith’s Italian phone at 12:07. At 12:08 she calls Filomena, who advises her to try Meredith’s phones. She doesn’t tell Filomena that she tried the UK phone just a minute ago (nor does she mention this in her email).
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In the email, Amanda says she called Meredith’s phones after speaking to Filomena – cellphone records support this claim. But she also says that the Italian phone “just kept ringing, no answer”.
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Her cellphone records show this call lasted just three seconds, and the call to the UK phone lasted just four seconds. (The WeAnswer Call service, which prides itself on how quickly it answers its customers’ calls, boasts that their average speed-of-answer is 5.5 seconds.)
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Next, Amanda claims that she returns to the cottage with Raffaele.
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But why doesn’t she try Meredith’s phones again? If the Italian phone was going to continually ring again – even for just three seconds – she’d now be able to hear it through the bedroom door (assuming Meredith had it with her).
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But this doesn’t seem to have occurred to either Amanda or Raffaele.
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4. Why didn’t Amanda call Filomena back?
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In the 12:08 call, Amanda told Filomena she would try Meredith’s phones and then call her back. .
In the email, Amanda claims that she called Filomena back three quarters of an hour later – after Raffaele’s finished calling the police at 12:55.
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But cellphone records show that Amanda never called Filomena back at all.
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On the other hand, Filomena DOES call Amanda back – at 12:12 and 12:20. It’s not clear whether Filomena receives an answer to these calls, or simply leaves a message, Amanda’s email makes no mention of having received these calls.
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Then Filomena tries a third time, at 12:34, which is when Amanda tells her that Filomena’s own room has been broken into.
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5. Why doesn’t Amanda mention that she called her mother in Seattle?
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Her cellphone records also show that Amanda called her mother at 12:47 – but she makes no mention of this call in her email.
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Edda Mellas claims that she told Amanda to hang up and call the police – but Amanda makes no mention of this advice in describing their decision to call the police.
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The email describes the decision to call the police as something between herself and Raffaele, after she had tried to see through Meredith’s window, and after Raffaele had tried to break down Meredith’s door.
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But in the ten minutes before Raffaele calls his sister (an officer in the carabinieri), Raffaele has received a call from his father (at 12:40:03) and Amanda has made a call to her mother (at 12:47:23) – neither of which calls is mentioned in the email.
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Raffaele’s sister gives him the same advice that Edda Mellas gave Amanda: hang up and call the cops.
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6. How can the tour of the cottage and the arrivals of first Marco and Luca, and then of Filomena and Paola, all take place between 12:55 and 13:00?
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Raffaele makes the successful emergency call (lasting nearly a minute) at 12:54:39.
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Meredith’s UK phone is activated at Police HQ at 13:00 – as part of a conversation which the postal police at the cottage are having about that phone with staff at HQ.
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This conversation mentions Filomena’s arrival, and the information she’s given them about it being a UK phone.
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This means that we need to fit the following activities into those five minutes, if Amanda’s email is to be believed:
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The postal police arrive later than 12:55
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Amanda and Raffaele give them a tour of the cottage, including the suspected break-in and the bloodstains in the bathroom
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Amanda writes down Meredith’s phone numbers for them, on a post-it note which Luca Altieri notices on the kitchen table when he arrives
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Marco and Luca arrive (and they see the post-it note) and have a conversation with the police about the ownership of the phones
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A few minutes later, Filomena and Paola Grande arrive. Filomena explains to the police about Meredith’s phones (one lent by Filomena, and the other a UK phone)
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The postal police make contact with their HQ
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During this call, Meredith’s phone is activated (at 13:00)
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In addition, at some point, Paola sees Raffaele and Amanda emerging from Amanda’s bedroom – but it’s not clear whether this happened before or after 13:00. It could have been after.
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But even if we move this emergence from the bedroom to after 1300, there simply isn’t enough time for all those other activities to take place in a period of less than five minutes.
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Second scenario: the police account is basically accurate, Amanda Knox’s email is essentially untrue
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Let us take the opposite scenario, and assume that the police are basically correct, and that Amanda Knox’s email is basically incorrect.
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This then provides us with answers to those puzzles above, and also fills in some of the gaps that were otherwise missing from the timeline.
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We also find that this new timeline is supported by evidence from other witnesses.
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1. Where was Amanda at 12:08?
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Amanda was at the cottage, and so was Raffaele.
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Amanda was not telling the truth when she said she was going to fetch Raffaele – since Raffaele was in the room with her when she made the call.
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This matches with the versions of both Filomena and Raffaele, who both believed that the call was made from the cottage.
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2. Why didn’t Amanda call Raffaele?
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Amanda never called Raffaele that morning because they were with each other the whole time – just as they continued to be with each other every moment until their arrest (except when separated for interrogations).
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3. Why did Amanda stop calling Meredith’s phones?
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Amanda called from the cottage in the first place, so there is no longer a question of why she called Meredith only from Raffaele’s apartment.
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Also, she allowed the phone to ring only for three or four seconds because she knew that Meredith would not (and could not) pick up – she knew Meredith was dead.
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The purpose of making these calls was simply for them to appear on her own cellphone record, to help construct an attempted alibi.
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4. Why didn’t Amanda call Filomena back?
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This question can be answered if we accept the hypothesis that Amanda’s intention was for Meredith’s body to be discovered by Filomena and/or Filomena’s friends.
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When the police found the couple outside the property “waiting”, they were really waiting for the one living person that they had called that morning – Filomena.
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Amanda ignores the calls at 12:12 and 12:20 because she wants Filomena to arrive at the cottage and to be the one who makes the “discoveries” of the break-in, and the locked bedroom.
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So that when Filomena arrived at the cottage, Amanda and Raffaele (at the front of the house) could have said, “Oh, we decided to wait for you. Let’s go in together.”
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However, Amanda answers Filomena’s 12:34 call because the police are already at the cottage and have already discovered the alleged break-in.
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So now Amanda needs Filomena to arrive as quickly as possible – and at this point she tells Filomena about the break-in and the locked door.
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Unfortunately for Amanda, however, Filomena decides to call Marco and get himself and Luca to go there first – knowing that they will be able to reach the cottage much more quickly.
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Amanda tries to delay the breaking open of the room by telling the police, and by telling Luca, that it’s normal for Meredith to lock her own door.
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She does this because, when it comes to the breaking down of the door, they want the others to be the first ones on the scene - and we can see that when the door is broken down for real, Amanda and Raffaele withdraw to the kitchen.
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Unfortunately for Amanda, however, she can’t resist boasting later to Meredith’s English friends that she herself was the first on the scene.
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5. Why doesn’t Amanda mention that she called her mother in Seattle?
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Amanda’s email is essentially fictional.
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The police arrived around 12:30, which is when they said, and this is corroborated by the CCTV evidence from the car park (timed at 12:25).
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So the police have been in the cottage for about a quarter of an hour when Amanda calls her mother.
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Amanda is first called away from the police to answer Filomena’s 12:34 call, just as Raffaele is called away a few minutes later to answer a call from his father at 12:40.
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However, it is not until the arrival of Marco and Luca that they are able to escape to the privacy of Amanda’s bedroom, where they make the phone calls first to Amanda’s mother, then to Raffaele’s sister, and then the two calls to the police.
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Notice that Edda and Raffaele’s sister both give the same advice: Hang up and call the police. And that’s exactly what they do, in fact.
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However, in trying to create a fictional backdrop for making the emergency calls, Amanda forgets that she’s already called her mother.
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Now she tries to explain that she and Raffaele called the police because of their panic over the locked room – panic which seems not to exist when Amanda is telling Luca that Meredith usually locks her door.
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(Notice that in this version, we don’t need to believe that nobody can understand what Amanda says.)
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After making these calls, Amanda and Raffaele emerge from the bedroom, as described by Paola Grande.
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Paola’s memory of arriving at the cottage just before one is supported by the activation of Meredith’s cellphone at 1300.
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6. How can the tour of the cottage and the arrivals of first Marco and Luca, and then of Filomena and Paola, all take place between 12:55 and 13:00?
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It doesn’t. The tour of the cottage takes a more realistic fifteen minutes (roughly 12:30 to 12:45).
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The police spend ten minutes talking to Luca and Marco about the phones, and about the suspected break-in, and so on (roughly 12:46 to 12:55), while they await the arrival of Filomena and Paola.
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The girls arrive shortly before one, as the girls said, and as the phone records support, and explain the situation of the phones to the police (roughly 12:56 to 13:00).
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There follows another fifteen minute examination of the house, culminating in the breaking down of the door by Luca Altieri at 13:15.
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Conclusion
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This version may or may not be accurate, but at least it is supported by external evidence, not contradicted by it.
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It is easy to see why Judge Micheli’s report found that the cellphone records do not support Raffaele Sollecito’s claim to have called the flying squad before the postal police arrived.
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It is also easy to see why these timings undermine other stories told by the two defendants – such as Amanda’s December 2007 claim that she thought the postal police were in fact the police that Raffaele had just called.
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Such a claim is absurd, given that Battistelli contacts HQ with a status report less than five minutes after Raffaele’s 112 call was made.
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The bottom line is that this does not look promising for Amanda Knox.
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2010, 11:11:15 AM »

This will weigh heavily in Amanda's appeal.

What was the motive for the killing?


Prosecutors said it was the result of a four-way sex game in which Knox, Sollecito and Guede forced Miss Kercher to submit to sex, pushing her on to her knees and threatening her, then killing her, with a knife. But Knox knew Guede only casually, and Sollecito did not know him at all. Sollecito had only known Knox for six days. Is it really credible to suggest that three people who were virtual strangers to each other got together to commit a brutal sexually-motivated murder?

Could there have been another motive?

Prosecutors repeatedly changed their minds about the motive during the course of the two year investigation and trial. Having initially said it was an orgy gone wrong, chief prosecutor Giuliano Mignini said Knox killed Miss Kercher in a moment of blind hate because she was sick of being criticised by her British flatmate for her personal hygiene and for bringing male friends back to the house they shared. There is a third possible explanation - that Rudy Guede, a known drug dealer and suspected thief, raped and murdered Miss Kercher on his own.

How reliable was the DNA evidence?

The prosecution case against Sollecito hinged on two pieces of DNA evidence. One was a clasp ripped from Miss Kercher's bra, which bore tiny traces of Sollecito's DNA. But defence lawyers queried why his DNA evidence would be on the metal clasp, and not on the fabric of the bra strap from which it was torn. "How can you touch the hook without touching the cloth?" asked Sollecito's high-profile lawyer, Giulia Bongiorno. And it was only found on Dec 18, 2007 – seven weeks after the initial crime scene investigation. In the meantime it was scuffed around the floor of Miss Kercher's bedroom, leading to a high risk of DNA contamination.

Did police get the right murder weapon?

They said Miss Kercher was killed with a 6.5 inch long kitchen knife found in Sollecito's apartment. The handle bore traces of Knox's DNA – not surprising, given that she had prepared meals in her boyfriend's flat – and evidence of Kercher's DNA on the blade. But defence experts said the sample quality was so poor that it was unreliable as evidence and would not have been admissible in many foreign courts. The knife did not match a bloody, knife-shaped smear on Miss Kercher's bedclothes, nor did the blade match two out of three of the wounds to her neck.

Why did Rudy Guede tell a friend that Knox was not in the house on the night of the murder?

This the most critical piece of evidence, maybe proving beyond a doubt Amanda and Rafaelle are innocent !

Guede, the Ivory Coast-born immigrant who was found guilty of the murder in a separate trial last year, made a call by Skype from an internet cafe while he was on the run in Germany, in which he told a friend Knox was not at the house at the time of the murder. A few months after his arrest, he changed his story, saying Knox and Miss Kercher had argued over money and he saw a man, who could have been Sollecito, running from the scene.

When Guede was initially questioned, he did not even mention Knox and Sollecito being there. Wouldn't he have certainly blamed it on them immediately if they were there. He barely knew their names until a month after his arrest, after he got lawyer.
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2010, 08:37:57 AM »

I know there is not much interest, but Amanda's parents will be on Oprah this afternoon.
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2010, 03:42:38 PM »

Oprah's a pompous cow, but then again, if she goes into the details of a gory lust murder I might even stomach such a member of such a species. :P



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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2010, 09:20:13 AM »

Oprah's a pompous cow, but then again, if she goes into the details of a gory lust murder I might even stomach such a member of such a species. :P

I never watch her, but the show was about Amanda's family, and what they are going through with an innocent daughter in a foreign prison. The main point was the unfairness of the trial. The very fact the media sensationalized it as a 'gory lust murder', and demonized Amanda, made her trial a sham.

It was the British tabloids that were most responsible - but here is an article from the London Times that supports Amanda's family.


From The London Times



Should Knox’s trial even have reached the courtroom?


Speculation, circumstantial evidence, questionable forensics — no wonder the Knox trial makes us uncomfortable

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What is it about Amanda Knox that leaves us so unsettled? Is it her outré sexuality, catalogued so faithfully by the media ever since, on November 6, 2007, she found herself implicated in the murder of her flatmate, Meredith Kercher? Was it the cartwheels and the splits that she apparently performed in a Perugia police station while awaiting police questioning? Perhaps, it’s no more complicated than her nickname: “Foxy Knoxy”, redolent of enigmatic, Mona Lisa-like insouciance in the face of a tawdry, sordid, pitiful sex murder.

Actually, our unease springs from a deeper well. Knox discombobulates because we feel guilty. This is a young woman preparing to spend the next 26 years behind bars, whose case, had it been brought in Britain, would never have reached court. If by some cruel miracle a British judge had found himself presiding over 12 good men and true, whose task it was to determine whether Knox was innocent of Kercher’s murder, it is inconceivable that he would not have made strong, telling directions to acquit.

Whatever the truth of the tragic events on the night of November 2, 2007, the evidence against Knox was flimsy at best, inchoate at worst. From start to finish the Knox saga has produced its very own peculiar brand of bedevilment.

“You are always behaving like a little saint. Now we will show you. Now we will make you have sex.” Those are words spoken by the “she-devil” Knox to Kercher on the night of the crime — only they weren’t. Instead, they are the fanciful imaginings of an Italian prosecutor, speculating before the jury about the words Knox may have uttered to Kercher. Try imagining a British barrister saying this in an Old Bailey trial. British judges don’t use gavels, but if they did, one would be thrown at counsel’s head for so preposterous a piece of subliminal advertising!


To look at the timeline of events is to come up, again and again, with doubt, confusion and sensationalism. On occasion, Knox has not helped herself. But people who stand accused of serious crimes rarely get everything right. The ice-cold murderer is a fictional stereotype; prosaic reality reveals that nervousness, stress and pressure create ambiguities, or what lawyers like to call “factual lacunae”. It is the job of a criminal trial — in Britain, at least — to test the accused’s story, to sift the evidence and to measure the facts.

What do we actually know in the Knox case? Very little. We know that she and Kercher met as students at the University for Foreigners in Perugia, where they shared a whitewashed cottage. Kercher, who was studying politics and language at Leeds University, introduced Knox to her friends and showed her around the walled city. But the relationship soon became tense, as those between student flatmates often do. Kercher apparently disapproved of how the American would bring strange men to the house, and told friends that she was irritated by Knox’s toilet habits and guitar-playing.

Here the first intimations of Knox the “she-devil” emerge. Hearsay tells us that Knox was sexually voracious; she even slept with a man she met on the train on the way to Perugia. So much for Erica Jong’s infamous, remorse-free “zipless f***” in Fear of Flying — for Knox’s Italian prosecutors, such conduct apparently meant that she was fast, loose and prone to kill.

Leaked information shows that she had had seven partners, three of whom she had slept with after her arrival in Italy (the list excluded her co-accused, Raffaele Sollecito). Heavens — on Facebook, she even included “men” as an interest.

In a society that jumps to condemn Sally Bercow’s admission of past sexual indiscretions, while agonising over the “fall” of Tiger Woods for precisely the same activities, Knox’s supposed predilection for leaving a beauty case containing a vibrator and condoms in the bathroom was all of a piece with her penchant for penning rape fantasies.

Only, again, it wasn’t. For just as indisputable as Kercher’s dead body, found with her throat cut in her bedroom, is the fact that there is not one iota of physical evidence placing Knox at the crime scene. Niente, nada, nihil. There is a knife, yes, and it has Knox’s DNA on its handle. The knife was found at the house of Knox’s then boyfriend, Sollecito — but if she had helped him to prepare dinner, traces of her DNA on his knives would not be surprising.

But the attorney Anne Bremner, who offered her services pro bono to Knox via Friends for Amanda, has roundly dismissed the idea that Sollecito’s is the knife that killed Kercher. Bremner argues that the murder weapon was never found; a bloody print on the bed linen, she says, conveys the shape of the actual murder weapon and the knife in question “doesn’t match an outline of the knife on the bed”.

Additionally, Bremner told Time magazine, expert testimony has shown that at least two of the wounds on Kercher’s neck couldn’t have been made by that particular blade.

Some of Sollecito’s DNA was found on one of Kercher’s bra clasps. Note — some of Sollecito’s DNA. But the finding throws up yet more doubt. The clasp wasn’t collected until more than two months after the murder and film footage of the crime scene investigation suggests that it was periodically picked up and moved. The likelihood of DNA contamination is huge.

Rather more certainty emerges in the rootless figure of Rudy Hermann Guede, 21. Giuliano Mignini, the lead prosecutor, contends that between them Guede and Sollecito inflicted a total of 43 wounds and bruises on Kercher in the course of a sex game undertaken to please Knox, for whose attention they were vying. Mignini accuses Knox of inflicting the fatal stab wound, after which she and her boyfriend fled. If so much is open to question, Guede’s guilt is undoubted. He was given a 30-year sentence in October 2008, after opting to be tried under a “fast track” legal process.

But what of Knox’s own statements? Her critics point to various inconsistencies. Granted, she appears to have contradicted herself, at one stage telling investigators that she had been present at the scene of the murder and that Patrick Lumumba, her boss at the bar where she worked a couple of nights a week, had assaulted Meredith.

Lumumba has since been exonerated of all suspicion. When he was released, Knox wrote in her prison journal: “Patrick got out today! Finally! Something is going right!”

To those who rush to judge her, this is an affirmation of her role in Kercher’s murder, a gauche expiation of guilt at Lumumba having been dragged into things. To seasoned criminal lawyers, Knox’s words — including her subsequent claim that she spent the night of the murder at Sollecito’s home — are typical of the confusion engendered by hours of interrogation in extremis, in an unfamiliar judicial system.

Those same criminal lawyers would also, had the trial been in the UK, been on safe ground in applying to have it abandoned as having been hopelessly prejudiced not merely by media coverage, but by Italian prosecutors, who routinely divulge what should be confidential pre-trial information to an all-too-eager media.

Here, contempt of court laws prevent the publication of information, from the moment of arrest or criminal charge, that may have a substantial risk of causing serious prejudice to a trial. The piecemeal leaking of salacious information about Knox — her sexual exploits, her smoking cannabis with Sollecito, her cartwheels and prison journal extemporisations — was a disgrace that would never have been countenanced under UK law. She was subjected to a relentless, corrosive character assassination that she had never had a chance of fighting.

But the biggest disgrace of all — and the reason we don’t like the Knox verdict — is down to sex. In a trial where the evidence has struggled even to reach the realm of the circumstantial, Knox has been demonised for being a sexually active woman. Nothing in the facts — nothing, for even Guede’s testimony sheds no light on what actually happened to Meredith Kercher — sustains the Italian prosecution’s belief that an evil she-devil’s sex game went wrong. It is conjecture, pure and simple.

Quite why, with Guede’s guilt established, the authorities insisted on the she-devil sex game is rather more a matter for psychological analysis than the humdrum details of Knox’s Seattle past.

Knox’s family will appeal against the verdict, one arrived at by the justice system of the country whose luminaries include Dante, di Lampedusa, Fellini and Michelangelo, cultural icons who perhaps helped inspire Kercher and Knox to make their journeys to Umbria.

It is a tragedy that Italy — which also played a key role in the development of Western jurisprudence — should stand by as so chilling a blend of sexism and injustice wreaks havoc.
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2010, 12:57:16 AM »

That's a pretty interesting article. Thank you.
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2010, 10:11:13 AM »

That's a pretty interesting article. Thank you.

Here's one from the Guardian in response to the show.

Reasonable doubt that justice was done


The appearance of Amanda Knox's family on the Oprah Winfrey Show reminded US viewers of the unease about her conviction

It's easy to forget three months have passed since conviction beyond a reasonable doubt took a holiday inside a courtroom in Perugia, Italy. On 5 December, Amanda Knox, a 22-year-old American student from Seattle, and Italian Raffaele Sollecito, 25, were found guilty of murdering British student Meredith Kercher. Two days ago, however, American audiences were reminded of Knox and her boyfriend's plight as her parents took to the Oprah Winfrey Show to once again declare her innocence.

While it's cynically easy to see the show as catering to American exceptionalism and exploiting a family's collective self-deception for ratings during "sweeps", anyone who has followed the trial should have had a gnawing feeling that the bars closed on the wrong people.

Here's why.

The jury in the Perugia sentenced Knox and Sollecito to prison for about a quarter of their lives, despite no motive, scant physical evidence, and no prior criminal histories. Prosecutors smeared Knox as a "luciferina," or "a devil with an angel's face". Unlike the US, juries in Italy are not sequestered. The constant media coverage calling Knox a "she-devil", illustrated by her promiscuity and drug-use, couldn't have fared well for the jury's neutrality. And it didn't help Knox and Sollecito that in Italy the prosecution is king, owing to its descent from the Inquisition and medieval law. "This nullifies the fact – written in our constitution by the way – that you're innocent until proven guilty," ecclesiastical judge Count Neri Capponi told Vanity Fair last year.

But what's instructive and terrifying about this case is how an overzealous prosecution used the traditional morality of the medieval Catholic town to punish an outsider and her boyfriend for a crime the evidence does not support. What's even more disturbing is that the prosecution did this despite already convicting a drifter and small-time drug dealer, Rudy Guede, of the crime. Investigators found his DNA all over Kercher's body and his bloody handprint on her pillow. Immediately after the murder, he fled to Germany where he was arrested. He told police he walked in on a man standing over Kercher with a knife after returning to her bedroom. The two struggled before the murderer fled. In October 2008, he was found guilty of murdering Kercher and sentenced to 30 years in jail – a sentence later cut to 16 years.

But the prosecution had already accused Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito of the crime and they weren't going to let them go. While it's possible the pair and Rudy Guede murdered Meredith Kercher, the prosecution's story still sounds absurd, like hell opened up underneath that picturesque cottage on All Saints Day.

According to lead prosecutor Giuliano Mignini's closing argument, Guede met Knox and Sollecito at Knox and Kercher's cottage, probably to settle a drug transaction. Kercher then began arguing with Knox, who hated Kercher because she thought Knox unclean and immoral. In a fit of drug-fuelled rage, the three attacked Kercher. Then, according to Mignini, the three tried to force Kercher into a sex game but she fought valiantly. Mignini even speculated what Knox might have said to Kercher: "You can imagine Amanda telling Meredith, 'You act like such a saint, now you are going to have sex with us.'" When they couldn't have their way with her, Sollecito and Guede held down Kercher while Knox cut her throat.

The evidence supporting Mignini's closing statement is shaky at best. Knox, however, only helped the prosecution along, engaging in absurd, even callous behaviour after the murder. When she returned home the morning after the murder, she found blood in the bathroom. However, she didn't immediately call police but took a shower, then left the cottage, and returned with Sollecito to investigate. When Knox was brought in for questioning by police, she did cartwheels in the station while awaiting interrogation. She pointed the finger at an innocent man, her boss, Patrick Lumumba, at the bar she worked at. She said she was there the night of the crime and heard Meredith Kercher scream before Lumumba killed her. (When Guede was arrested, he took Lumumba's original place in the conspiracy.) She and Sollecito both changed their stories of what happened and what they did that night. But Knox's intense questioning took place in a strange country in a strange language without an attorney or a professional translator present. She claimed the police slapped her.

Knox's allegations, however, aren't hard to discount as the lies of a desperate woman who saw the walls slowly closing inward. Her queer behaviour made it easier for Italians, Britons, and many Americans disgusted by Knox to rationalise that even if Knox didn't murder Kercher, a bad person was still deservedly punished.

But for people who still believe in a reasonable doubt, there's considerable unease that these two young people may be spending a good portion of their lives behind bars because the jury, the prosecution, and Italian society did not approve of the lives they led, especially Amanda Knox.

If there's anything to be learned from this case, it isn't that US standards of due process are better than Italy's. (Too many wrongfully convicted people face the prospect of death row in the United States for that belief to rationally exist.) It's this: when any legal system bites down on a person, especially one easy to dislike, it's hard for it to unclench its jaws.
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2010, 09:02:05 AM »

The jury report if finally out - details are forthcoming.

Judge: Amanda Knox took part in murder but wasn't crime's mastermind

By ANDREA VOGT
SPECIAL TO SEATTLEPI.COM

PERUGIA, Italy - Amanda Knox was present and took part in the murder of her British roommate Meredith Kercher, but was not the mastermind or the lead perpetrator, according to a judge's opinion released Thursday.

Judge Giancarlo Massei, who presided over the nine-month trial of Seattle native Amanda Knox and Italian ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito released the opinion explaining the jury's guilty verdict just one day before the 90-day cut-off deadline required by Italian law.

The opinion, a whopping 427 pages (front and back) is an excruciatingly detailed account of why the jury convicted Knox and Sollecito last December. Obtained in Perugia by seattlepi.com, the opinion largely supports the prosecution's case, particularly on the forensics, but also lives ample room for a number of criticisms that will likely feature prominently in her upcoming appeal.

For example, the jury disagreed with the murder dynamic that prosecutors put forth. Both the alleged murder weapon (a knife with Knox's DNA on the handle and a trace amount of Kercher's on the blade) and the bra clasp with Sollecito's DNA were considered reliable elements of proof.

Jurors, however, said they believed two witnesses were "not credible" and also did not agree with prosecutors' theory of how the murder unfolded. In particular, they did not believe that Knox was the mastermind or lead perpetrator of the attack on Kercher, but rather aided Rudy Guede, who the jury believes began the sexual violence that then spiraled out of control.

Yes, there was a sex game, but Knox didn't start it, but Guede did, the jury believed.

Prosecutor Giuliano Mignini expressed both satisfaction and surprise. "This is one of the things I like about the Italian system," said Mignini upon receiving the heavy 3-inch thick document with its detailed explanation. "We get to know why."

Knox's attorney, Luciano Ghirga, reached by seattlepi.com as he was coming out of the courthouse, refrained comment until later in the day, as it would take some time to read through the hefty opinion. He noted, however, that Knox's appeal would likely begin after the summer break.

 (Seattlepi.com's Andrea Vogt, reporting from Perugia, will be updating the story regularly throughout the day.)
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Re: Amanda Knox Murder Trial
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2010, 01:23:43 PM »

427 pages is quite a lot. It also explains why the Italian system is slow.

The longest German court decision I read (and I have to read lots) was 60something pages and that was partially because the court gave a detailed description of the defendant's medical history (because her psychological stability was an important factor for the decision).
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