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azalel

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A Question
« on: July 12, 2009, 06:35:31 AM »

     Hello.  My name is Azalel.  I have been a member of this forum for a few months and find it a great place to post my more violent thoughts (commonly assembled in some snuff story or other).

     I enjoy reading snuff/cannibal stories and, frankly, scare myself when I get aroused by them.

     Perhaps more background would be called for here.  I am 37 years old.  I have been married for the last 7 years, but have been with my wife for the last 20 years (living together for the last 15).  I have two wonderful step-children (a 29-year-old son and a 27-year-old daughter) and two great grandsons (one 4 years old, and the other 9 years old).  Sounds nice, right?  It is.

     Now, then, why would I get a charge out of reading or writing stories in which boys and girls, men and women, get horribly butchered for someone else's entertainment or food?  The short answer is this:  I'm fucked up in the head.  Some would probably claim that I have anger management issues.  They would most likely be right. 

     I do not like talking about my feelings. When forced to, I tend to stutter.  It is highly uncomfortable and embarrassing.  So how do I release this pent up anger?  I create people with the sole intent of making them die. 

     We all wish we could do it sometimes.  That bastard who cut you off and almost wrecked your car?  You would love to tie his guts to your bumper and see how far they stretched before they would drag him behind you.  The problem with doing it in real life is that people with badges would likely be restraining you and locking you up.  Not really convenient.

     So, I write.  Simple rule of thumb to living with society is this: thoughts are perfectly ok.  Acting on those thoughts, not so ok.  Verbalizing those thoughts, depends on the company.

     Verbalizing thoughts is a lot like verbal sexual harrassment.  Saying something once is not bad.  Saying it again after being informed that such things are unwelcome, well, then you cross a line best left uncrossed. 

     I like things that make people think.  I love playing devil's advocate.  I love challenging people's beliefs (as respectfully as I can manage) to see how strong their belief is.  I find that if someone believes something but cannot back it up with why they believe it, they need someone to make them question those beliefs.

     One of  my favorite targets for this approach is incest.  Everyone knows it is wrong, but why?  Because it is a sin?  Bullshit.  Most people only call something a sin because they cannot be bothered to look deeper.  Incest is wrong because in close blood relations, the DNA is too similar and negative traits are more easily passed on to descendents.  That is it.  In a nutshell.  Understanding that, being the reasonable antagonist that I am, I call bullshit on the whole thing.  I still believe that close blood relatives should not have children, but I do not see anything wrong with them having sex if there is no chance or procreation.  That means that, if one partner is sterile, or if one of them has an operation that will prevent them from having children, then they can fuck until his dick falls off. I do not care.  It does not hurt anyone.

     But people have that stigma in their fucking heads.  Bullshit. 

     People should never be too comfortable.  There should always be something that makes you a little uncomfortable because it makes you examine yourself.  Why does it make you uncomfortable?  Is the thought pattern that brings this discomfort valid?  If not, what perspective would help me overcome this?

     For example, I hate spiders.  They are fucking freaks of nature.  I used to be horribly frightened by them.  I had to have my wife kill them because I could not get close enough to do it myself.  Until about 10 years ago, I was fine with that.  Then my first grandson was born.  I realized, at that point, how debilitating my phobia was.  I also realized that, by allowing that fear to control me, I was setting a bad example for my grandson.  I did not want him growing up scared of the eight-legged fuckers because I showed him it was the right way to handle them.

     After years of working on it, I have now reached the point where, although I will never like them, I am not bothered by them.  They still startle me if one appears unexpectedly, but, I can deal with them.  Inside my house, I kill them whenever I see them.  Outside the house, I leave them alone.  'Raid' makes a lovely anti-spider spray.  It melts their exoskeleton.  I love watching them squirm as they dissolve.  Unfortunately, it is toxic and, with small kids in the house (my daughter and grandkids live with us), we do not wand "Raid" in the house.  So now, I kill them with whatever is handy (shoes, brooms, etc...).

     Dammit.  This always happens.  Sorry, folks.  I will put away my soapbox and get back on topic.  The topic being snuff stories, that is.

     As I mentioned, I write snuff stories.  I have posted three here since I joined.  They are graphic, violent, and can make people uncomfortable.  For that last part, I am sorry.  Here, then, is my question.

     Would you, the ones reading the stories, prefer willing meat for the cannibal feasts, or would you like to see a combination of willing and unwilling.  Also, what level of violence and pain would you prefer?  What level of descriptiveness would you prefer?  Guts falling on the floor, or somewhat vague descriptions that leave it up to YOUR imagination to determine which guts are falling to the floor?

     Thank you for reading this (presumptuous, aren't I?) and I hope you enjoy my stories.

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Re: A Question
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 12:36:22 PM »

I like the combination of willing and unwilling. if you can balance that shit out, go right ahead. Can't wait to see the results.

and I understand where you're coming from with your stories. Stress relief right? I do that sometimes too. no harm in it, shouldn't be banned from it.

but...um....were you REALLY afraid of spiders? you'd be the first guy I know who was. not teasing, not mocking, but that was really brave on how you admit that and got over your fear.

Oh, and even if I can't write worth a damn, I am still a decent writer critic. Not great, just decent.

Your thread here is fantastic. How you just admit your feelings without anyone caring, how you want them to understand where you're coming from. and you understanding where they are coming from. Put a little personal background for an added plus. Making people think. Even my English teacher (Who is a total bitch who NEVER gives out anything that's over a B) would be impressed.
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Re: A Question
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 06:44:51 PM »

I was more than afraid.  I was terrified.  If I was reading a book that had a page with a picture of a spider, I could not touch that page.  I had to get a tool (pencil, pen, ruler, etc...) to turn the page.  I could not watch movies that had spiders.  I lost a bet with my stepmother in 1991 and had to watch Arachnophobia with her.  I had nightmares for three months. 

It is a very common fear.  According to Phobia Fear Release (http://www.phobia-fear-release.com/ten-most-common-phobias.html), 50% of women and 10% of men have a fear of spiders.  That is why I have no fear of admitting it.  I was not alone. 

As for your writing, warlady, it is pretty good.  You can write an interesting story in a short period of time.  I mentioned once, that it takes me at least 12 hours to write a decent story.  "School Day" took a little more than that.  And rereading it after I post it,  I still see places where I fucked up spelling and/or grammar.  It is nice that we can modify posts, but I am trying to be less critical of my work.

That is the hardest part of being a writer, in my opinion.  We are always critical of our own work.  At least, I am. 

Thank you for your response.  I really appreciate any feedback.
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Re: A Question
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 07:33:15 PM »

Yeah, but I think the best writers are those that do not think they had made the best story. They see room for improvement in their next story. and they don't get stuck up because of it for days.
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Re: A Question
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2009, 07:18:50 AM »

I am working on a first for me.  A sequel.  God help me.  It is a sequel to School Day.  It will be up soon.


I really should have my head examined for this.
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Re: A Question
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2009, 12:52:58 PM »

Well I can take a look at your mind if you want.

Just let me find my scalpel...
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Re: A Question
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2010, 07:37:34 AM »

I personally like unwilling Meat its so much more entertaining if the deeply upset and paniced. Also i like extreme pain and mutilation.

Im curious does your wife know of your stories? And when your inventing teen girls to butcher are they based on girls you'v seen walking round?
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Re: A Question
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 06:54:06 AM »

My wife knows everything about me.  She is not interested in reading my stories but that is because she finds the subject matter distasteful. I have been writing for years and she has read many of my other stories. It is just this genre that she avoids.

As for my creations, I try to avoid using real people as a model.  That is a line I do not want to cross because then I contemplate horrible things happening to REAL people and that does bother me.  As long as my stories are firmly in the realm of fantasy, I am fine.  Adding too much realism kills it for me.
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Re: A Question
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2010, 05:23:42 PM »

I can understand that, dont want your fantasies intruding on your real life. I could do with trying to seperate them in my head but i tend to think things over in my head a lot.

Do you take any requests for stories like this? Any scenarios i could ask you to write about?
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Re: A Question
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 11:49:06 PM »

I could, but I am very busy between work, school, and family.  I haven't had much time at all to write recently.  If you had a request, I could try it, but I couldn't say when it would be done.
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Re: A Question
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2010, 08:58:07 PM »

Ok heres my request.

Based in the same reality as your stories Company Picnic and School day.
You have a troop of girl scouts and its time for the fund raising, so they go out and sell there cookies (or what ever you think would fit) The girl that sells the most gets a prize, but the girl that sells the least (plus her parents and siblings) gets tortured and cooked and the scout picnic.
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Re: A Question
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2010, 05:53:07 PM »

I have a strong preference for 'unwilling prey'. I tend to immerse myself in the victim and I find that quite hard when she has a death-wish. I 'get' how she (or maybe he) would find something dangerous thrilling. But I find it hard to feel empathy with those with no basic common sense, much like Leo's frequent protagonists tends to shake her head at the willing snuffmuffins.
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Re: A Question
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2011, 06:39:59 AM »

Hi again,

I've just finished reading and commenting on another of your stories.  It's time to put my two cents in here.  I am the unwilling victim in all of my fantasies and all of my stories are the same.  Unwilling turns me on too much for me to even contemplate the idea of a willing victim, if such a thing could actually occur.  Perhaps SOME "willingness" would be okay in my book, as long as the victim repented later when the pain and intensity of terror peaks out with their approaching death.  The guts and blood are just part of it for me.  Please keep that in your stories.

Thanks again
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Re: A Question
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2011, 06:07:21 PM »

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     Would you, the ones reading the stories, prefer willing meat for the cannibal feasts, or would you like to see a combination of willing and unwilling.  Also, what level of violence and pain would you prefer?  What level of descriptiveness would you prefer?  Guts falling on the floor, or somewhat vague descriptions that leave it up to YOUR imagination to determine which guts are falling to the floor?

What I have been into is the whole idea of a woman's perils and how she tends to be vulnerable, and usually naked and how it makes her so sexually aware she can't help herself...

A combination of willing and unwilling, IMHO, is best.

I'm not into gore, really, and I never have been.  But there are certain realities, if you want to make your story believable, as opposed to cartoonish, that one must acknowledge.

What I LOATH are cartoonish stories that pretend to be serious.  Splyf is a master of making cartoonish stuff with his Trine and Christine stories, which you borrowed for "Mother's Day" and "A Visit to the Club"  I have both archived and have read both more than once.

Toning down the gore can be done, and I certainly wouldn't mind that at all... but I wouldn't want to diminish your creative prowess if that's what you'd be sacrificing.
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